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Obadiah and Jeremiah 49: who copied whom?

Roughly half of the shortest book in the Old Testament shows up almost verbatim in Jeremiah 49:7-22. Three positions on the direction of borrowing, and a dating question that floats with the answer.

What's at stake

Obadiah is 21 verses, one chapter, no superscription date. Jeremiah 49:7-22 is an oracle against Edom inside Jeremiah's foreign-nations collection. The two passages share long stretches of nearly identical Hebrew about Edom's pride, mountain hideouts, and coming fall. The overlap is too extensive to be coincidence, so three options have been worked out across the modern commentary tradition. Obadiah borrowed from Jeremiah. Jeremiah borrowed from Obadiah. Or both drew on an older anti-Edom oracle that no longer survives. The direction of borrowing then shapes the dating of the book, and the dating shapes how to read the central charge: that Edom stood by, looted, and handed over survivors on the day Jerusalem fell.

What the text is doing

Obadiah's twenty-one verses fall into three movements. Verses 1-9 are the announcement of Edom's coming downfall, with the famous lines about pride: 'Though you mount up on high like the eagle, though you set your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down, declares the LORD.' Verses 10-14 turn to indictment, describing what Edom did on 'the day of your brother' (verse 10) and 'the day of distress' (verse 12). They stood aloof. They looted. They cut off the escapees at the crossroads. They handed over survivors. Verses 15-21 widen out to the day of the LORD against all the nations and the restoration of Mount Zion's possession.

Jeremiah 49:7-22 is a self-contained oracle against Edom embedded in Jeremiah's larger oracles against the foreign nations (chapters 46-51). It shares with Obadiah the same set of charges (pride, false security in mountain hideouts, coming complete reversal) and the same vocabulary. Roughly Obadiah verses 1-9 line up directly with Jeremiah 49:7-22, though Jeremiah includes additional material that Obadiah does not have, and Obadiah's text is more compact and tightly structured.

Edom itself is the territory southeast of Judah, from the Dead Sea down to the Gulf of Aqaba. Edomite kings reigned from Bozrah (modern Buseirah) and Sela. The kingdom's biblical history starts as Jacob's twin brother Esau's descendants, runs through the period of Israel's kings, and ends with Edom's gradual displacement by Arab tribes (eventually the Nabateans) through the sixth to third centuries BCE. The Edomite population that was pushed westward into the southern Judean Negev became the Idumeans of the Hellenistic period.

Three positions on the direction of borrowing

The shared block runs roughly Obadiah 1-9 = Jeremiah 49:7-22. Three options for which direction the borrowing went.

Obadiah's oracle predates Jeremiah and was already known in the prophetic tradition. Jeremiah's foreign-nations collection picked up the Obadiah material and incorporated it into his Edom oracle, possibly with some expansion.
Held by
  • Caspar René Gregory, Prolegomena to the Greek New Testament (1907, on prophetic borrowing patterns)
  • Douglas Stuart, Hosea-Jonah (WBC, 1987), on Obadiah's compositional priority
  • Daniel I. Block, Obadiah: The Kingship Belongs to YHWH (Hearing the Message of Scripture, 2013)
  • Jeffrey J. Niehaus, Obadiah in The Minor Prophets vol. 2 (ed. McComiskey, 1993)
  • Walther Zimmerli, Ezekiel 25-48 (Hermeneia, 1983), discussing prophetic borrowing patterns
  • John D. W. Watts, Obadiah: A Critical Exegetical Commentary (1969, with hesitation)
Evidence
  • Obadiah's text is tighter and more compact in the shared block. Where the two passages diverge, Jeremiah generally has additional material or looser phrasing, which fits the pattern of an expanding borrower more than a contracting one
  • Obadiah verses 1-4 read as a self-contained oracular unit with clear internal structure, while the parallel material in Jeremiah 49 sits inside a larger collection of foreign-nations oracles with less internal cohesion at the seams
  • Jeremiah's foreign-nations oracles (chapters 46-51) draw on earlier prophetic material elsewhere as well. Jeremiah 48 (against Moab) borrows heavily from Isaiah 15-16, on most readings. The pattern is consistent with Jeremiah using older oracles
  • An earlier date for Obadiah (possibly pre-587 BCE) explains the middle verses (10-14) as composed during, not after, Edom's collaboration with Babylon. The accusations have the urgency of a contemporary indictment rather than a later memorial
  • Some details in Obadiah (the mountain-hideouts vocabulary, the eagle-and-nest imagery) have older Hebrew syntactical features than the parallel verses in Jeremiah 49, which has been read as evidence of an earlier composition
Challenges
  • An earlier date for Obadiah requires explaining away the verses (10-14) that read most naturally as describing Edom's role in the 587 BCE destruction of Jerusalem. The 'day of your brother' language clusters with sixth-century usage
  • Tight prose can also be the mark of a borrower's careful selection from a longer source, not a source's original compactness. The argument from compactness cuts both ways
  • The pattern of older syntactical features is contested. Several of the same features appear in late-sixth-century texts, and the dating of individual prophetic phrases is rarely decisive
  • If Obadiah is pre-587 BCE, the book has to be addressed to an earlier disaster (possibly the Philistine and Arab raid of Jehoram's reign, 2 Chr 21:16-17, or Edom's revolt under Jehoram, 2 Kgs 8:20-22). The case for either earlier disaster is thin

The shared block, verse by verse

The parallel block is the heart of the case. Below are the verses set side by side. Translations follow the ESV, with Hebrew word order preserved where the two texts diverge. The exact correspondence is most visible in Obadiah 1-4 / Jeremiah 49:14-16 and in Obadiah 5-6 / Jeremiah 49:9-10. The other verses in the block also overlap but with more variation.

Obadiah 1-9 alongside Jeremiah 49:7-22

The shared block compared verse by verse. The closest correspondences are bolded by sequence (Obad 1-4 // Jer 49:14-16 and Obad 5-6 // Jer 49:9-10).

Obadiah 1-9
Obad 1
'We have heard a report from the LORD, and a messenger has been sent among the nations: Rise up! Let us rise against her for battle!'
Obad 1b
Obad 2
'Behold, I will make you small among the nations; you shall be utterly despised.'
Obad 2
Obad 3
'The pride of your heart has deceived you, you who live in the clefts of the rock, in your lofty dwelling, who say in your heart, "Who will bring me down to the ground?"'
Obad 3
Obad 4
'Though you soar aloft like the eagle, though your nest is set among the stars, from there I will bring you down, declares the LORD.'
Obad 4
Obad 5
'If thieves came to you, if plunderers came by night, how you have been destroyed! Would they not steal only enough for themselves? If grape gatherers came to you, would they not leave gleanings?'
Obad 5
Obad 6
'How Esau has been pillaged, his treasures sought out!'
Obad 6
Obad 7
'All your allies have driven you to your border; those at peace with you have deceived you; they have prevailed against you; those who eat your bread have set a trap beneath you, in him there is no understanding.'
Obad 7 (no parallel in Jer 49)
Obad 8-9
'Will I not on that day, declares the LORD, destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of Mount Esau? And your mighty men shall be dismayed, O Teman, so that every man from Mount Esau will be cut off by slaughter.'
Obad 8-9
Jeremiah 49:7-22
Jer 49:14
'I have heard a message from the LORD, and an envoy has been sent among the nations: Gather yourselves together and come against her, and rise up for battle!'
Jer 49:14 // Obad 1b
Jer 49:15
'For behold, I will make you small among the nations, despised among mankind.'
Jer 49:15 // Obad 2
Jer 49:16
'The horror you inspire has deceived you, and the pride of your heart, you who live in the clefts of the rock, who hold the height of the hill. Though you make your nest as high as the eagle's, from there I will bring you down, declares the LORD.'
Jer 49:16 // Obad 3-4
Jer 49:9
'If grape gatherers came to you, would they not leave gleanings? If thieves came by night, would they not destroy only enough for themselves?'
Jer 49:9 // Obad 5 (with line order reversed)
Jer 49:10
'But I have stripped Esau bare; I have uncovered his hiding places, and he is not able to conceal himself.'
Jer 49:10 // Obad 6
Jer 49:7
'Concerning Edom. Thus says the LORD of hosts: Is wisdom no more in Teman? Has counsel perished from the prudent? Has their wisdom vanished?'
Jer 49:7 (parallel to Obad 8 but in a different position in the oracle)
Jer 49:8
'Flee, turn back, dwell in the depths, O inhabitants of Dedan! For I will bring the calamity of Esau upon him, the time when I punish him.'
Jer 49:8 (no parallel in Obad)
Jer 49:17-22
'Edom shall become a horror. Everyone who passes by it will be horrified and will hiss because of all its disasters... As when Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring cities were overthrown, says the LORD, no man shall dwell there, no man shall sojourn in her.'
Jer 49:17-22 (no parallel in Obad; Jeremiah's expansion)

Edom in the sixth century: what historians can reconstruct

The dating question for Obadiah rides on what role Edom actually played in 587 BCE. The biblical witnesses across multiple books are united that Edom collaborated with Babylon in some way at the fall of Jerusalem. Psalm 137:7 invokes God against the Edomites who said 'Lay it bare, lay it bare, down to its foundations!' on the day of Jerusalem. Lamentations 4:21-22 addresses Edom directly: 'Rejoice and be glad, O daughter of Edom, you who dwell in the land of Uz; but to you also the cup shall pass; you shall become drunk and strip yourself bare.' Ezekiel 25:12-14 names Edom for taking vengeance on Judah. Ezekiel 35:1-15 charges Edom with planning to inherit Judah's land.

The Babylonian Chronicle and other cuneiform records do not specifically name Edom in the 587 BCE campaign, but they do not name many of the smaller participants on either side. Archaeological work at Tell el-Kheleifeh, Buseirah (Bozrah), and Tel Aroer shows that Edomite material culture continued through the sixth century, with some sites showing expanded Edomite presence in the southern Judean Negev during exactly the period when Judean cities there were destroyed. The Edomites appear to have moved into vacated Judean territory, which fits the indictment in Ezekiel 35.

Edom from 850 BCE through the Nabatean displacement

The downward limit on Obadiah's date is set by Edom's gradual disappearance as a kingdom. By the third century BCE the kingdom is gone.

Pre-587 Edom
Post-587 displacement
850 BCE
Mesha Stele names Edom
The Moabite Mesha Stele (KAI 181) refers to Edom and the broader Transjordan kingdom system. Edom is an established polity.
0% along range
845 BCE
Edom revolts against Judah
Under Jehoram of Judah, Edom successfully revolts (2 Kgs 8:20-22; 2 Chr 21:8-10). One proposed setting for an early dating of Obadiah.
1% along range
845 BCE
Philistine and Arab raid on Jerusalem
Under Jehoram of Judah (2 Chr 21:16-17). Some defenders of an early Obadiah read the middle verses as describing this raid, with Edom's collaboration.
1% along range
800 BCE
Edom under Assyrian pressure
Edom appears in Adad-nirari III's tribute lists. Stable kingdom with Bozrah as capital.
7% along range
701 BCE
Edom under Sennacherib
Edomite king Aiarammu pays tribute to Sennacherib (Sennacherib prism). Kingdom continues.
21% along range
587 BCE
Fall of Jerusalem; Edom's collaboration
Edom stands by and participates in the looting, according to Ps 137:7, Lam 4:21-22, Ezek 25:12-14, Ezek 35:1-15. The dominant setting for Obadiah's middle verses (10-14).
36% along range
553 BCE
Nabonidus's Tema campaign
Babylonian king Nabonidus's western campaign passes through northern Arabia. Edom under continuing Babylonian pressure.
41% along range
550 BCE
Edomite expansion into the Negev
Archaeological evidence of expanded Edomite material culture in the former southern Judean territory. The 'Idumean' development begins.
41% along range
450 BCE
Edomite kingdom declining
Persian-period archaeological evidence shows reduced occupation at Buseirah and Tell el-Kheleifeh. Arab tribal pressure increasing.
55% along range
312 BCE
Nabateans documented in Petra
First explicit historical reference to the Nabateans, by Hieronymus of Cardia (preserved in Diodorus 19.94-100). Petra emerges as their center. Edom as a kingdom is effectively gone.
74% along range
125 BCE
Idumea under John Hyrcanus
The Hasmonean ruler conquers the displaced Edomite population in the southern Judean hills and forcibly incorporates them as Jews. Herod the Great is a descendant of this Idumean population.
100% along range

How the dating tracks the borrowing direction

The direction-of-borrowing question and the dating question are linked. If Obadiah is earlier and Jeremiah borrowed, Obadiah could be from any period in the eighth or seventh century BCE, and the middle verses (10-14) would have to describe an earlier disaster (often the Jehoram-era raid). If Jeremiah is earlier and Obadiah borrowed, Obadiah is post-587 BCE, and the middle verses describe the Babylonian destruction. If both draw on a common source, the dating of Obadiah is open and depends on other internal evidence.

Most modern commentaries land on a post-587 BCE date for Obadiah, on the strength of the parallels with the curse-Edom psalm, Lamentations, and Ezekiel's Edom oracles. The minority for an earlier date is built around the Jehoram-era reading of the middle verses, the priority of Obadiah's tighter Hebrew, and the Septuagint placement of Obadiah after Amos and before Jonah (which on a chronological reading by the early translators may have implied an earlier Obadiah).

Reading Obadiah with the question open

Most readers will not resolve which way the borrowing ran. What they can do is read both passages alongside the cluster of Edom oracles in Psalms, Lamentations, Ezekiel, Joel, and Malachi, and notice that the prophetic tradition treats Edom as a special case. The brother who stood by and watched. The cousin nation that profited from Judah's disaster. Whether Obadiah's twenty-one verses came before Jeremiah's longer oracle, or after, or whether both drew on a third source now lost, the book remains the most concentrated expression of a charge that the rest of the prophetic tradition also makes: that the day of the LORD coming on the nations begins with the brother who stood at the crossroads.

Sources

Primary sources
  • Obadiah 1-21 (MT, BHS)
  • Jeremiah 49:7-22 (MT, BHS)
  • Psalm 137:7 (NRSV)
  • Lamentations 4:21-22 (NRSV)
  • Ezekiel 25:12-14; 35:1-15 (NRSV)
  • Amos 1:11-12; Joel 3:19; Malachi 1:2-5 (NRSV)
  • 2 Kings 8:20-22; 2 Chronicles 21:8-10, 16-17 (NRSV)
  • Sennacherib's prism, BM 91032 (Aiarammu of Edom in tribute list)
  • Mesha Stele, KAI 181 (c. 840 BCE)
  • Adad-nirari III royal inscriptions (Tadmor / Yamada, RINAP 3/1, 2011)
  • Diodorus Siculus, Bibliotheca Historica 19.94-100 (on the Nabateans, c. 1st c. BCE)
  • Hieronymus of Cardia, Histories (preserved in Diodorus 19), on Nabateans c. 312 BCE
  • Tell el-Kheleifeh excavation reports (Glueck, 1938-1940)
  • Buseirah excavation reports (Bennett, 1971-1980)
  • Tel Aroer excavation reports (Thareani, 2011)
Modern scholarship cited
  • Bernhard Duhm, Das Buch Jeremia (KHC; Mohr Siebeck, 1901)
  • Julius Bewer, Obadiah and Joel (ICC; T&T Clark, 1911)
  • John Bright, Jeremiah (Anchor Bible; Doubleday, 1965)
  • John D. W. Watts, Obadiah: A Critical Exegetical Commentary (Eerdmans, 1969)
  • Leslie C. Allen, The Books of Joel, Obadiah, Jonah, and Micah (NICOT; Eerdmans, 1976)
  • John A. Thompson, The Book of Jeremiah (NICOT; Eerdmans, 1980)
  • Walther Zimmerli, Ezekiel 25-48 (Hermeneia; Fortress, 1983)
  • Hans Walter Wolff, Obadiah and Jonah (Continental Commentary; Augsburg, 1986)
  • Douglas Stuart, Hosea-Jonah (WBC; Word, 1987)
  • Jeffrey J. Niehaus, Obadiah, in The Minor Prophets vol. 2, ed. T. E. McComiskey (Baker, 1993)
  • Paul R. Raabe, Obadiah (Anchor Bible; Doubleday, 1996)
  • Ehud Ben Zvi, A Historical-Critical Study of the Book of Obadiah (BZAW; de Gruyter, 1996)
  • Richard J. Coggins, Israel Among the Nations (NCBC; Eerdmans, 2000)
  • Yifat Thareani, Tel Aroer: The Iron Age II Caravan Town and the Hellenistic-Early Roman Settlement (Nelson Glueck School, 2011)
  • Daniel I. Block, Obadiah: The Kingship Belongs to YHWH (Hearing the Message of Scripture; Zondervan, 2013)
  • Gary V. Smith, The Minor Prophets vol. 2 (Mentor; Christian Focus, 2017)